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Dave Carlson's avatar

I recall an analysis by Benny Morris that the ordeal of Israel [ultimately important to him], and Palestine lay in what he considered "half-measures" as far as the ethnic cleansing of the Nakba in 1948, and the imposition of occupation after 1967. It follows, with all the rationality of Zionists for whom the, erm, uh, "population transfer" of the Greek-Turkish War (1.6 million people) by 1923 served as a model, that the territorial conquest of their Eretz Israel required just such a genocidal outburst as we are all presently witnessing. The plans were elaborated and carefully laid, and would coincide with a generalized regional war between Israel and her neighbors. But with Egypt and Jordan now signatories of peace settlements with the Israeli state, and Lebanon unwilling to provoke war--witness the "Dahiya doctrine" during 2006--and Syria Balkanized and mired in Civil War, this presented a dilemma to the "solution" of the Likudniks and settlers and ethnonationalists/ Jewish supremacists. So, the script was flipped. Instead, the genocide was initiated in order to provoke the massive region-wide war that these warmongers--seeking "total security"--demand. I think history will bear this out. The Israeli bombing of an Iranian diplomatic post in Damascus, violating international law--again!--will provoke the war with Iran that Netanyahu has sought for over 20+ years. Morris is the same sort of nationalist historian for whom history is a source of grievances and nationalist claims as Niall Ferguson is for enthusiasts of Empire, imperial control, racism, war, aggrandizement. Of course the chickenshit Morris doesn't want to discuss his ouvre with Norman Finkelstein!

Tony Kohler's avatar

Damn… there are others in the world, contrary to what Israeli, American, and European supremacists believe. Tell that to Benny Morris!

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KHGUAN's avatar

We are being ruled by murder-orgy obsessed elite despots.

the blame-e's avatar

Iran has been "just weeks away" from having the nuclear bomb(s), and some buffoon(s) is talking about how "[r]ealistic leaders in Washington and Jerusalem cannot allow Teheran to have the Bomb. And, in the coming months or year, must do what is necessary to halt and destroy the Iranian nuclear project." The coming "months or year?" A little late to the party? Or "in the coming days and weeks?" Is that in World War III or World War IV?

Solker's avatar

You're a sociopath. Iran must have them now. Israel is the filth of the world and it must be DESTOYED.

Solker's avatar

No, they must have it at all cost now to threaten the sociopathic filthy israelis and zionist pigs infecting the world and the region.

Dave Carlson's avatar

And now a day later, we have the Iranian armed forces retaliation against the Israeli attack on a consulate in Damascus...

The Iranians state cited Art. 51 of the UN Charter, and the Israeli violation of international law (again!) ca. 1961-1963. The IDF is calling it "victory" because the USAF, RAF, Jordanian AF, and the Israeli military shot down some huge proportion of the drones and cruise missiles. The USA is crowing similar, having spent over a billion--perhaps way over a billion--on all the anti-missile missiles it expended on Israel's behalf. Supposedly--who really knows?--Biden, or his handlers, told Bibi Netanyahu to treat it as a "win" and to "take the win" but the Israeli media appears to be fulminating for a full-scale counter-strike to the intolerable breaching of their air defenses and striking a pair of air bases... I don't think Bibi can really stand the idea that his decades-long-sought war with Iran is to be stymied now that shots have been fired in anger, so look to an insane escalation and provocation. While the pundits and propagandists look to the war with Iran between the U.S. and its Western militarist allies the UK and France, and who knows? Maybe even Germany what with the Israeli state part of the Federal Republic's _Staatsraison_, the Israelis will hasten their genocide of Gaza and probably move to greatly increase/ wholesale outright expulsions of Palestinians from the occupied territories in the West Bank. I really, really, hope I'm wrong, but this is the ramifications of what IDF generals and Israeli Likudniks and so on take away from Benny Morris: "Palestinians just simply irrationaly hate Jews, my own findings on Zionist emphasis on, ahem, 'transfer' and ethno-nationalism be damned..." "Palestinians started the intra-comunal phase of the 1948 War," "The Arabs started the 1948 War and lost, so conquest fair and square..." and "The Nakba was a half-measure, and should have been more thorough." So now, as openly admitted by Israeli politicos, "Nakba 2.0." Just ghastly. And the USA is fully responsible/ partner.

Is Israeli "retaliation" for Iranian "retaliation" going to fully assume the proportions of an invasion of Lebanon again?

NIZAMIXIII's avatar

I doubt Israel would mount ground invasion of Iran. More like it will test the last edifices of the MAD-based old world order, hopefully not to the point of their Samson Option.

Dave Carlson's avatar

I don't think anyone, at least in their right mind?, would favor a land war with Iran... But sanctions, blockades, air strikes, missiles, etc. etc. with the USA doing the "heavy lifting" while the IDF/IOF assails southern Lebanon while Israel hastens the genocide of Palestine is a real fear. And the "Samson Option"... I think that anything resembling a 2-state solution, let alone a single secular state might well bring that about at this point? Chilling.

NIZAMIXIII's avatar

Somehow I’m a believer in the unexpected here… in a good way.

NIZAMIXIII's avatar

By “their Samson option” I of course meant Israel.

Mumtaz ahmed's avatar

How does ground invasion of iran comes here. Do you have any idea of geography , location etc

Naz's avatar

Beautiful Ending ....Much respect

Phi Phophum's avatar

If the Syrian Arabs, in their anguish, left Lebanon and Palestine vulnerable, what can the world do about their selfishness?

If the Jordanian, Saudi and the Egyptian, out of fright toward their own government leave the Lebanese and Palestinians vulnerable, what can the world do?

If UAE, Qatar, Kuwait all do business with Israel because they are looking for the bottom line - almighty dollar - what can the world do?

We are left to appreciate the efforts of Iran, Ireland, Spain and Norway amongst all humanitarian nations and watch the massacres unfold.

I will not see a free Palestine in my lifetime but there will be a day of reckoning unlike no other for Israel - unfortunately Satanyahj will not see the disaster

Mommy's avatar

A angel with horns , He shows himself as a monster

Ari Zighelboim's avatar

Arch-criminal genocidal Nazi Benny Morris and people like him should face execution like those French intellectual Nazi collaborators after WWII.

Michael's avatar

Zionists will see the corpses as they become one in their Olam Ha Ba.

Linda Palmer's avatar

STOP THE SLAUGHTER 🙏

Paul Champagne's avatar

The Israeli Afshin Ratansi just interviewed on Going Underground implied that the Israeli would use Nuclear weapons against Iran had there been no Iron Dome... that's a bit dishonest considering they would not have attacked Iran without an Iron Dome but it shows the intent. We know the Russians won't nuke us first, we know that Israel would burn the whole earth rather than give up their genocidal project.

Richard Larose's avatar

Do you mean HIROSHIMA ?

Adrian's avatar

Norm goes all the way in, as usual 🫡 I suspect the only reason he still breathes is a function of his last name...